By Andrew Wong      13th November 2001, 4th Jan. 2003. 17th June, 2006

 

"From Serious hobby to Investing to Teaching and Coaching Investment Knowledge and skills "

 

Introduction

I try to trace back my path - how does it come about that today I am such a serious investor and managing close to RM 10 million fund for relatives, friends, associates, or anyone interested in sound investment strategy. 

Background

Being trained as professional and being analytical, I was intrigued by the theories of the Pattern and Trends on market behaviors more than 20 years ago, especially technical analysis, Elliott Waves theory (Refer an extract from “Elliott Wave Principle” by Frost and Prechter) and others. The theories touch on human behavior and the use of mathematical models to explain, analyze and anticipate human behavioral patterns. In earlier years, I remember, there being no easily available data, nor internet, I took great pain to gather old newspaper and extract stock market data into spreadsheet like Multiplan, Superstar, Lotus 123, plot the graphs and examine the evolving patterns.

The learning and study were for self consumption. I invested in books, software relating to the technical analysis, seminars, subscribed to data service provider and downloaded all KLSE share data every day, year after year. It is a hobby I enjoy very much, like others who take serious lessons and great pain to learn to play golf. I put in real money in accordance to the theories, I won, I lost. That is part of learning, and the learning continues ..

From Stock to Unit Trusts

Some years ago, I knew the limitation of applying the Pattern and Trends theories on stock market, i.e. on individual counters / companies. The reason is that the volume of each stock is small, thus the stock is easily subjected to “manipulation”. The Pattern and Trend theories work for large market, whereby it is truly the mass behavior that is in action, whereby no individual syndicate group could easily influence or steer the outcome, rather it is the collective behavior of all types of players : investors, economists, politicians, insiders, syndicates, men and women on the street.

I was then in Sarawak, and there were friends who introduced unit trusts to me. I was convinced that unit trust / mutual funds are units of large portfolio of many different counters, thus they do represent larger participation of market players for Pattern and Trends theories to be applied. But then the unit trust agents could not satisfy my requirements : I need historical data of the fund, to see the patterns and trends, and day to day updated data, so that I could do my homework to determine “buy at zone of low price, and sell at zone of high price.” Since I was about to get transferred from Sarawak to Kuala Lumpur (eight years ago), I thought KL unit trust agents will be more sophisticated and “educated” to give me what I wanted and to take care of my investment.

I was again disappointed, after interviewed close to a dozen of different funds agents. (It is not appropriate for me to elaborate here why typical unit trusts agents are not trained to help clients to buy low and sell high, as fund mangers have different objectives which could be different from the investors like you and me.)

At that time, a particular agent / manager noticed my seriousness as a knowledge investor and offered / invited me to become a consultant or agent. (A thought never occurred to me, as I was quite happy then to learn and apply the theories for self-consumption.). Then I thought : “why not! After all I will continue to put in hard work in research, data collection and analysis, I could share that with friends.”. More new ideas spinned off from there : I could use the knowledge and skills to build community, to help people to invest. I could develop a group of serious learners of the theories to later tackle the even larger market like in US, in later years when I retire …… After all, my current profession is in the business of human development : training, lecturing, facilitating, coaching and mentoring.

Three years of Unit Trust Monitoring

I signed up. I passed the necessary examination. I qualified to be a unit trust agent / consultant for more than three years now.

I shared my knowledge with friends, many who had bought unit trust earlier at high prices, had actually gave up, but convinced with my approach. They signed up paperwork with me (some I have kept for more than two years and I did not submit any of the signed application for equity unit trust as the price is not yet within buy zone. But I introduce them other investment instruments that give sure and consistent positive return. (Refer my e-newsletter for Community of Investment learners). I am committed to my own Quality Policy – helping myself and my friends to buy low and sell high. Unlike typical unit trust agents, whose livelihood maybe dependent on the commissions, or who have received different training and applied other strategies to advice clients to buy high or low and keep for long years, I do differently for my own circle of friends and new friends. I have no intention to discredit other agents’ approach, just that they are using different strategies and rationale. What is important to me is : find the best strategy to help myself and friends to buy and sell within an period of time that can bear the maximum positive return of investment, and never accept "suffer loss first and hope for the future" strategy!

I, then, only use the unit trust as an vehicle for investment - studying types of investment instruments to use, at what timing, doing necessary switching or simply redeem all to part all money in banks or EPF, if necessary..

Financial Literacy and Investment Education

More and more, I also realize that most people mindsets are influenced for years, unknowingly with strategies that make them investment losers, or with short term gain and long term loss. And I emphasize more on education and financial literacy.

There are articles or experiences I share with the community in this website, some are free, some for subscribers, some for club members of this QuaSyLatic. 

There is internet tuition class I organize for serious learners on investment. Many, who have paid the tuition fee do not have the will and discipline to do the necessary homework, hence could not benefit from the virtual class. And they prefer me just to help them make money, not learning. Well, learning is a discipline and it is not every body's cup of tea.

Then I provide Investment Mindset Coaching, again to friends who want to be serious and disciplined investors.

I hope you share my stories of my compelling belief of the theories and enjoy their application – like scientists whose action and behavior are guided by their belief and set of sound principles and theories.

I encourage you to be serious and humble learners, as I am still learning. After long years of learning, I learn that it is not just the techniques and equations of the mathematical model, the real challenge is better understanding of our minds – our desire, greed or anxiety, as that really influence our interpretation of the theories. In another word : don’t try to outsmart the market, but listen to your own voice. There is no enemy in the market, the “enemy” is ourselves.”. We are not trading the markets, but our "beliefs" of the markets.

As at June 2006, market became volatile again. Hence much action is required, switching, preserving capital or profit or cutting small loss, etc,. I found I have to ask many of my investors to close their accounts, as my system of trading and investing may cause them nightmare. Many of them have difficulty to make decisions when I present options for them. They want to make money, yet they are very scared, as they lack knowledge how the markets operate. 

They are other who have their own opinions on the market, and / or being advised by other investment agents / advisors with different views, and thus feel confused or anxious to find the "truth" when such opinions differ from mine. It is best that these investors find an approach that is congruent with their own thinking and psychology and not invite too many cooks. Again they are advised to stick to one system and not create confusion and anxiety for themselves. 

I begin to focus on my own trading and investment, serve only those investors who feel comfortable with my system of investment.

Happy Learning.

QuaSyLaTic

13th November, 2001.   17th June, 2006


Currently I devote more of my time and energy in carrying educating people on investment literacy, as per

QuaSyLaTic Investment System Training

"Give a man a fish, he finishes in a day. Teach him to fish, he harvest the whole life long."

 

May. 2003

 

Extract from “Elliott Wave Principle” by Frost and Prechter

Some two thousand years ago a man voiced a few words whose truth has rung down through the centuries:

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      One generation passeth away, and another generation cometh, but the earth abideth forever. The sun also ariseth, and the sun goeth down, and hasteth to his place where he arose. The wind goeth toward the south, and turneth about unto the north; it whirleth about continually, and the wind returneth again according to his circuits. All the rivers run into the sea; yet the sea is not full; unto the flow from whence the rivers come, thither they return again.... The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done; and there is no new thing under the sun.

 

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       A corollary of this profundity is that human nature does not change, nor does its pattern. Four men in our generation have built their reputations in the economic field on this truth: Arthur Pigou, Charles H. Dow, Bernard Baruch and Ralph Nelson Elliott. ......

 

 Reflecting on the above ...

. "human nature does not change, nor does its pattern.". We may have changed or advanced greatly in technology and sophistication of the economic systems, but do not be fooled by the outward material manifestation. Human nature and behavior are still influenced by greed and anxiety - when bulls come, we get excited with more good news and we want to make real quick bucks (and we get burnt), when bears linger on, we loose hope, we hear more bad news and we retreat, later we regret not positioning well in the market for arrival of the bulls ..... Such patterns and trends repeat in different shapes and forms.

 

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